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and you asked john brennan that today. he responded that any american who is a member of al qaeda should know that we are with al qaeda and anybody who's in al qaeda can surrender at any time and thereby eliminate their risk of being killed by the united states. were you satisfied with that answer? >> i wasn't. and here's what's at stake. there are certainly instances where an american takes up arms against the united states, where i think it's important in order to protect the country to use lethal force. but i can tell you the government makes mistakes and sometimes the intelligence is flawed and sometimes they get the wrong person. and the reason i asked that question is i think those kinds of issues ought to be part of this debate and ought to be part of a system of checks and balances. >> oregon democratic senator ron wyden, i know it's been a very, very long and tax day four. thank you for your time tonight, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> thanks. >>> it took longer than scheduled for this riveting hearing on cap
and you asked john brennan that today. he responded that any american who is a member of al qaeda should know that we are with al qaeda and anybody who's in al qaeda can surrender at any time and thereby eliminate their risk of being killed by the united states. were you satisfied with that answer? >> i wasn't. and here's what's at stake. there are certainly instances where an american takes up arms against the united states, where i think it's important in order to protect the country to...
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. >> john brennan, the cia, and drone strikes. >> i never believed it is better to kill a terrorist than to detain him. >> marco rubio, savior of the republican party, and immigration debate. >> this is about getting it right for the american people and those suffering under an immigration system that does not work well for anybody. >> after the lights go out at the super bowl, thoughts about the nation's crumbling infrastructure. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- seesutawney phil did not his shadow this year, which means spring will come early. tell that to the folks in boston buried in snow. in washington, every day is groundhog day. the subject once again is the federal budget, but for debt, and the word that strikes fear in the hearts of contractors in the sea and the suburbs, sequestration. >> it gives new meaning to the term "march madness," because that is what would result if we have to face a sequester. >> that is why i fought not to have to sequester in the first place. the president did not want to have to deal with the debt limit again before h
. >> john brennan, the cia, and drone strikes. >> i never believed it is better to kill a terrorist than to detain him. >> marco rubio, savior of the republican party, and immigration debate. >> this is about getting it right for the american people and those suffering under an immigration system that does not work well for anybody. >> after the lights go out at the super bowl, thoughts about the nation's crumbling infrastructure. captioned by the national...
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it's john brennan's turn on capitol hill. what will the nominee say? the policies for killing al qaeda operatives who are american citizens and the overall use of drone strikes in other countries. by the way, when is the senate going to vote on chuck hagel's nomination. delay is rarely a good thing. biden rallies house democrats and we will talk to one member who is part of that bunch leading the charge. 48 hours after joking about his weight with letterman, chris christie gets serious and tough when asked about what a former white house doctor had to say about him. there is something going on that has a lot to do with 2016. it's thursday, february seventh, 2013. it's t"the daily rundown." let's get to the first reads of the morning. you may be breaking off to hear from president obama at the prayer breakfast. let's start with the first read. after years of secrecy, president obama ordered the justice department to release a classified memo detailing the legal justification for killing americans considered terrorists to two congressional committees. th
it's john brennan's turn on capitol hill. what will the nominee say? the policies for killing al qaeda operatives who are american citizens and the overall use of drone strikes in other countries. by the way, when is the senate going to vote on chuck hagel's nomination. delay is rarely a good thing. biden rallies house democrats and we will talk to one member who is part of that bunch leading the charge. 48 hours after joking about his weight with letterman, chris christie gets serious and...
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israel and i would add to that in addition to the hail appointment we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with . who will continue many of the covert programs of course our drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for real coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in washington that it's fall would be a strategic victory against iran what can you say about an approach like that first of all at this point iran's most important arab ally is no longer syria it's iraq thanks in no small part to the united states iran's most important strategic ally in the arab world is iraq. even in syria you know bashar al assad is still i don't know is imminent and even if you reach a point where he might feel like he needs to abandon damascus or something like this you're going to still have big chunks of syria that are effectively under g
israel and i would add to that in addition to the hail appointment we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with . who will continue many of the covert programs of course our drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for real coming to terms of the islamic republic...
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questioning brennan. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> your colleague lindsey graham said in part to his comments to our own casey hunt we should be totally supportive of the president's actions. i also want to play what john bolton said regarding the obama counterterrorism effort. let me play it and get your reaction to both of those. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach to the war on terror and i think it's entirely sensible. >> do you agree with that? lindsey graham saying totally sensible. >> we are fighting a war that's much different than the classic and traditional wars that we have fought in the past. the result of that is the methods of fighting that war and the way that americans are involved in the war are different than what they have in the past. and so, we're really in a process today of a much maturing way of handling these, of looking at them. i think there's going to be a robust discu
questioning brennan. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> your colleague lindsey graham said in part to his comments to our own casey hunt we should be totally supportive of the president's actions. i also want to play what john bolton said regarding the obama counterterrorism effort. let me play it and get your reaction to both of those. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach...
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john brennan was once the deputy cia director. he is now president obama's counterterrorism director at the white house. but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so of an informed high level official of the u.s. government. so maybe that's the president, but maybe that's somebody else. michael isikoff's scoop ended up at "the new york times" today and "the washington post" and "the hill" and slate and salon and ap to name a few. it was everywhere. and then at a press conference today, the attorney general was asked about it. >> last night nbc reported a white paper that was prepared by the justice department undated, unsigned about the legal -- the legal pinnacles for targeting americans overseas. coul
john brennan was once the deputy cia director. he is now president obama's counterterrorism director at the white house. but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so...
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brennan served in the cia under president george w. bush. >>> members of the senate intelligence committee will soon learn more about the obama administration's drone program. the white house says the justice department sent classified advice about the program to the senate and house intelligence committees. the documents reportedly state that it is legal for the government to kill u.s. citizens overseas if it believes they're high-ranking terrorists who are trying to kill americans. >>> and a drastic call by the pentagon this morning ahead of what could be huge budget cuts next month. the navy will reduce the number of aircraft carriers in the strategic persian gulf from two to one. that decision comes just one day before the "uss harry truman" was supposed to leave norfolk for the gulf. two carrier groups have been stationed in the region for the majority of the past two years because of rising tensions with iran. >>> this morning, president obama will speak at the national prayer breakfast at the washington hilton in northwest d.c.
brennan served in the cia under president george w. bush. >>> members of the senate intelligence committee will soon learn more about the obama administration's drone program. the white house says the justice department sent classified advice about the program to the senate and house intelligence committees. the documents reportedly state that it is legal for the government to kill u.s. citizens overseas if it believes they're high-ranking terrorists who are trying to kill americans....
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point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone hill the israelis are just fine with who will continue what many of the covert programs of course are drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that would be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for we all are coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in washington that bashar last fall would be a strategic victory against iran what can you say about an approach like that first of all at this point iran's most important arab ally is no longer syria it's iraq thanks in no small part to the united states iran's most important strategic ally in the arab world is iraq. even in syria you know bashar al assad is still i don't know it is imminent and even if you reach a point where he might feel like he needs to abandon damascus or something like this you're going to still have big chunks of syria that are effectively under good control of his government u
point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone hill the israelis are just fine with who will continue what many of the covert programs of course are drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that would be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for we all are coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in...
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we may see on thursday how many of those questions john brennan will answer. but tonight, four days ahead of that hearing, nbc news, michael isikoff has obtained a document that is closer than we have ever gotten that supposedly justifies this, the memo that may show the justification for the american government killing american citizens. tonight we have exclusive reporting. joining us is national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. michael, thank you for being here. >> good to be with you, rachel. >> everybody has been looking for this memo. you have not the memo, but a white paper based on the memo. does it tell us anything that we did not know before about how the government justifies targeted killings of americans? >> yes. in short, it does. it provides detail. it fleshes out some of the arguments that have been made publicly, and in ways that in some instances contrast with what has been said publicly. now, to be fair, attorney general holder gave a speech last march where he laid out the administration case for targeted killing of americans. he
we may see on thursday how many of those questions john brennan will answer. but tonight, four days ahead of that hearing, nbc news, michael isikoff has obtained a document that is closer than we have ever gotten that supposedly justifies this, the memo that may show the justification for the american government killing american citizens. tonight we have exclusive reporting. joining us is national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. michael, thank you for being here. >> good to...
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we've got hillary clinton, chuck hagel, leon panetta and now john brennan. are they getting what they want out of this, which is basically to try to put some mud on the president's record? >> absolutely. i think that's been the clear goal. >> i think actually not. if you look particularly at the hearings of chuck hagel and hillary clinton, you see a lot of basically republican free lansing going on. i was surprised at how the lack of collective, thoughtful questioning -- you would have thought that they would have gotten in behind closed doors beforehand and said, what's our line of questioning going to be, what is second kwengs and thoughtful? in fact, that wasn't the case which is why hillary clinton most vividly gave as good as she got and came out on the winning side. i think hagel, given his inconsistencies came away unscarred. i think it's also interesting, most folks may not know this, the suggestion made yesterday by dianne feinstein of having another court look at this stuff, well, she made that suggestion that at the very moment a particular federa
we've got hillary clinton, chuck hagel, leon panetta and now john brennan. are they getting what they want out of this, which is basically to try to put some mud on the president's record? >> absolutely. i think that's been the clear goal. >> i think actually not. if you look particularly at the hearings of chuck hagel and hillary clinton, you see a lot of basically republican free lansing going on. i was surprised at how the lack of collective, thoughtful questioning -- you would...
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i don't think there were a lot of questions about john brennan's kwaul ficks for the job. if i might say to live township the transparency that's been happy to profess. can i go back to the state of the union? i want to add a little bit of a note of caution to all this presidential huffing and puffing, which is yes, he was re-elected and re-elected by wide margins, but he has an extraordinarily full agenda. it's felt like a four-ring circus in washington this week. immigration, sequester, guns, nominees. he has a lot of very -- he has both a ticking clock and a congress that has especially on the republican side different -- way different interests and different political calculations, so he is going to -- as much as he might want to swagger, swagger, swagger, things are only going to get done if we meet somewhere in the middle and not -- because it's not going to get done on his terms. snoo in fact, leon panetta's passionate warning in that georgetown speech, you know, first on "meet the press" last weekend and then reinforced, there is going to be a farewell ceremony for
i don't think there were a lot of questions about john brennan's kwaul ficks for the job. if i might say to live township the transparency that's been happy to profess. can i go back to the state of the union? i want to add a little bit of a note of caution to all this presidential huffing and puffing, which is yes, he was re-elected and re-elected by wide margins, but he has an extraordinarily full agenda. it's felt like a four-ring circus in washington this week. immigration, sequester, guns,...
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brennan? >> not completely obviously saying sometimes it produces information and sometimes it isn't -- >> not enough to derail this nomination. >> i don't think so. i think brennan probably compared with hagel is going to be a breeze to get through, but these are issues and this is what this testimony actually illustrates, that really tug at the heartstrings of americans. we have had a traumatic decade. we have come away questioning tactics of torture, the use of guantanamo bay. the legal justification not fully understood. the drone issue still not fully explained because it's so secret. there's still a lot the american public is struggling to understand. >> dan, one reaction that i have relative to the whole standard of when we could take out even an american is, you know, be careful before you make your decision based on the occupant of the white house because precedent is being set here, and whatever the drill might be for today could apply to president clinton in 2016. it could apply to
brennan? >> not completely obviously saying sometimes it produces information and sometimes it isn't -- >> not enough to derail this nomination. >> i don't think so. i think brennan probably compared with hagel is going to be a breeze to get through, but these are issues and this is what this testimony actually illustrates, that really tug at the heartstrings of americans. we have had a traumatic decade. we have come away questioning tactics of torture, the use of guantanamo...
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brennan? >> reporter: well, talking to folks, the democrats here in d.c., there is a lot of confidence in brennan's performance because it's the complete opposite of hagel. they felt brennan looked self-assured. he gave a spirited defense to the administration's policies and most importantly he was also humble. he said there should be more information put forward in terms of when these drone strikes occur if civilians are injured. this hearing for mr. brennan also sort of placated a lot of democrats on that committee because the white house released papers from the department of justice explaining the legal rationale behind the drone strikes. so overall, the feel something that john brennan performed admirably, that he will move forward and he will be a good director of the cia. they felt that the committee hearing went as well as it could be. what's interesting, martin, john brennan has 25 years experience at the cia and that's really what we've heard. he's the most experienced person to take
brennan? >> reporter: well, talking to folks, the democrats here in d.c., there is a lot of confidence in brennan's performance because it's the complete opposite of hagel. they felt brennan looked self-assured. he gave a spirited defense to the administration's policies and most importantly he was also humble. he said there should be more information put forward in terms of when these drone strikes occur if civilians are injured. this hearing for mr. brennan also sort of placated a lot...
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there was a vocal opposition to the program and to john brennan becoming the next director. he was questioned over his past involvement in enhance interrogation techniques. >> i've expressed my personal objections to my colleagues about certain of those situations such as water boarding, nudity, and others. i've expressed my personal objections but i did not try to stop it because it was something that was being done in a different part of the agency under the authority of others. >> when asked about john strikes, he criticized the protesters. >> i think there is an impression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the true spirit to we only take this as a last resort to save lives. -- nothing could be further from the truth. we only do this as a last resort to save lives. >> it recently, a secret base in saudi arabia was revealed, first yeaused to kill this man. he was also a u.s. citizen and the obama administration agreed to show congress the legal opinion justifies s
there was a vocal opposition to the program and to john brennan becoming the next director. he was questioned over his past involvement in enhance interrogation techniques. >> i've expressed my personal objections to my colleagues about certain of those situations such as water boarding, nudity, and others. i've expressed my personal objections but i did not try to stop it because it was something that was being done in a different part of the agency under the authority of others....
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expect these questions to come up at brennan's confirmation hearing. whether we get to see it in the public. congress has been surprise league silent on this. very few members have demanded more transparency or oversight. even leon panetta said that's going to have to change. >> the transparency on this is very limited and does that mean a change and more oversight for congress to step in? >> i think the way to do it is in title ten operations, so-called title ten operations, military operations, i think a lot more of this can be put under title ten and that on title 50 we always ought to have that capability to use a covert effort if we have to. >> but very limited. >> i would limit that. >> ahead of brennan's hearings, eight democratic and three republican senators have written to president obama asking for the actual legal opinions themselves authorizing the killing of americans from that letter. "so that congress and the public can decide whether this authority has been properly defined and whether the president's pow twoer deliberately kill americ
expect these questions to come up at brennan's confirmation hearing. whether we get to see it in the public. congress has been surprise league silent on this. very few members have demanded more transparency or oversight. even leon panetta said that's going to have to change. >> the transparency on this is very limited and does that mean a change and more oversight for congress to step in? >> i think the way to do it is in title ten operations, so-called title ten operations,...
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i think brennan is generally safe. he did perform satisfactory according to a lot of these -- the key democrats an some of the republicans on the panel and will get confirmed. i think that will happen in the next couple of weeks but look for the issue of the drone strikes and whether or not there needs to be more oversight to become a hot issue in the next weeks. >> senator bob menendez, he says this is nonsense, a set-up, if you will. smoke and mirrors by conservative bloggers and such and supporters feel the same way. we heard his first comments an we played on this investigation. >> he's trying to make this all about a smear campaign from a small group of people. but the real problem for bob menendez is there have been reports that have surfaced showing he's taken action it appears on behalf of this mega donor who he's been involved with, and flown him to the dominican and had to repay him for some of the flights on the private jet. failed to disclose those initial i len facing an ethics inquiry here in the senate a
i think brennan is generally safe. he did perform satisfactory according to a lot of these -- the key democrats an some of the republicans on the panel and will get confirmed. i think that will happen in the next couple of weeks but look for the issue of the drone strikes and whether or not there needs to be more oversight to become a hot issue in the next weeks. >> senator bob menendez, he says this is nonsense, a set-up, if you will. smoke and mirrors by conservative bloggers and such...
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point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with who will continue many of the covert programs of course our drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for we are coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in washington that bashar last fall would be a strategic victory against iran what can you say about an approach like that first of all at this point iran's most important arab ally is no longer syria it's iraq thanks in no small part to the united states iran's most important strategic ally in the arab world is iraq. even in syria you know bashar al assad is still i don't know is imminent and even if you reach a point where he might feel like he needs to abandon damascus or something like this you're going to still have big chunks of syria that are effectively under good control of his government under his secu
point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with who will continue many of the covert programs of course our drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for we are coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in washington...